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Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 8:50 pm |
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9/11 Building 7 Collapse - WTC7 23 Minute Warning - Salomon Brothers Building (26mins)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1471985581749234824&q=9%2F11#14m44ss
BBC Correspondent Jane Stanley is seen saying that the Salomon Brothers Building (WTC7) has collapsed, with the building still standing behind her! Then the link is lost just before it does actually collapse. Yet another smoking gun!
The video has been posted on Google Video before but has been taken down several times.
From someone on myspace:
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I have now narrowed down the maximum margin of error to 1 minute and can confirm that the BBC first reported WTC7's collapse at 5pm (plus or minus 60secs) New York time LIVE on 9/11, a full 20 minutes before the actual collapse happened !!!
I am working on presenting this info with a V2 of above vid and 911blogger exclusive blog, which will take some time, verification is very important and to aid this.
I please ask as many people (with high speed internet) and 5GB of spare disk space to download the following BBC originals. These are what I used to confirm the timings (you can too) and have the damning footage etc.
All times are local "New York", the ranges are pretty accurate, but following my calculations are approximately 3 mins earlier than the actual time.
Each file is MPEG format and 1GB in size - To Download - "Right Click / Save Target As"
BBC World 9/11 Footage - 14:08 to 14:49
http://ia311517.us.archive.org/1/items/bbc200109111408-1449/V08515-32.mpg
BBC World 9/11 Footage - 14:49 to 15:31
http://ia331340.us.archive.org/1/items/bbc200109111449-1531/V08591-04.mpg
BBC World 9/11 Footage - 15:31 to 16:13
http://ia301330.us.archive.org/1/items/bbc200109111531-1613/V08591-08.mpg
BBC World 9/11 Footage - 16:13 to 16:54
http://ia331327.us.archive.org/1/items/bbc200109111613-1654/V08591-12.mpg
BBC World 9/11 Footage - 16:54 to 17:36
http://ia311517.us.archive.org/2/items/bbc200109111654-1736/V08591-16.mpg
I have produced a medium res WMV file that shows time sychronized continuous footage from 14:40 to 17:18.
This file is approx 700MB and starts at the Pataki conference with an accurate timestamp of 14:40 Eastern Time (gotta find a home for it online, DZ ?).
Maybe Guy Smith can do some research for us... LOL
Best wishes and good luck
Props to Gangster for the initial heads up on the 9/11 realtime news footage archive on archive.org.
Continuous realtime footage from 9/11 by ABC, CNN, BBC, NBC, FOX etc...
Good starting Link : http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=title%3A%28Sept.%2011%29&sort=-date
More info in this blog : http://www.911blogger.com/node/6400#comment-119070 |
Phone call to the BBC making them aware of their error.
http://www.pumpitout.com/audio/bbc_oops.mp3 |
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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 1:39 am |
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Thanks Boverred.
I'm downloading those links now.
Here's the full article from PrisonPlanet....
BBC Reported Building 7 Had Collapsed 20 Minutes Before It Fell
Revealing, shocking video shows reporter talking about collapse with WTC 7 still standing in background
Paul Joseph Watson & Alex Jones
Prison Planet
Monday, February 26, 2007 Digg this article
An astounding video uncovered from the archives today shows the BBC reporting on the collapse of WTC Building 7 over twenty minutes before it fell at 5:20pm on the afternoon of 9/11. The incredible footage shows BBC reporter Jane Standley talking about the collapse of the Salomon Brothers Building while it remains standing in the live shot behind her head.
Minutes before the actual collapse of the building is due, the feed to the reporter mysteriously dies.
(Lifttheveil note - The video appeared with this article but as predicted it has been removed from google video)
This amazing clip is on Google Video and you can watch it above. Skip forward to around the 14:30 minute mark. We are attempting to download an original copy from the source and add it as a backup link.
To be clear, the Salomon Brothers Building is just a different name for Building 7 or WTC 7.
Although there is no clock or time stamp on the footage, the source claims the report was given at 4:57pm EST, 23 minutes before Building 7 collapsed at 5:20pm. While the exact time of the report cannot be confirmed at present, it is clear from the footage that the reporter is describing the collapse of WTC 7 while it clearly remains standing behind her in the live shot.
Here are some further screenshots from the video.
The fact that the BBC reported on the collapse of Building 7 over twenty minutes in advance of its implosion obviously provokes a myriad of questions as to how they knew it was about to come down when the official story says its collapse happened accidentally as a result of fire damage and debris weakening the building's structure.
As we have documented before, firefighters, police and first responders were all told to get back from the building because it was about to be brought down. It is widely acknowledged by those who were there on the scene that warnings were issued for people to evacuate the area in anticipation of the building's collapse, with some even stating that a 20 second countdown preceded the collapse of the 47-story skyscraper, again clearly suggesting that it was taken down by means of explosives as the video footage of its implosion illustrates.
Alex Jones' film Terror Storm documents how Thermate was the likely culprit for the implosion of the twin towers and also explores the collapse of WTC 7.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9b4D-aO3zY
WTC7 Controlled demo (10min 35secs)
In a September 2002 PBS documentary, the owner of the WTC complex Larry Silverstein discusses Building 7 and states that in the late afternoon of September 11, the decision was made to "pull it." The term "pull it" is industry jargon for controlled demolition, but Silverstein denied charges that WTC 7 had been deliberately brought down.
This newly uncovered video confirms that the collapse of WTC 7 was no surprise, because television news stations were reporting on it before it happened!
This footage is absolutely amazing and should provoke a firestorm of new questions aimed both at Silverstein and the BBC. Who told the BBC that the building was going to collapse before it did and why were they reporting its fall in advance of the event actually taking place?
Many have speculated that some kind of press release was leaked too soon and AP wires, radio stations and TV news outlets prematurely reported on WTC 7's collapse.
The video also severely undermines the credibility of the BBC who recently caused controversy by airing a 9/11 hit piece that sought to debunk questions that bring the official story into doubt.
Calls have already been put through to the BBC reporting the "mistake," click here to listen to an MP3. The BBC have promised to "look into it."
Moronic commenters on Digg are already trying to bury the story, yet none of them have an answer as to why the BBC reported the building's collapse before it happened. Click here to add your own comment and counter the debunkers.
ACTION: E Mail the BBC and ask them to clarify exactly why their reporter is announcing the collapse of Building 7 before it has collapsed. |
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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 2:00 am |
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| I think I'll have to leave downloading those links for now as it's bed time and 3 give me a forbidden access message ant the other 2 are just over 1000Mb, which is strange for such short clips. |
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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 2:57 am |
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BBC Reported Building 7 Had Collapsed 20 Minutes Before It Fell
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/february2007/260207building7.htm
This amazing clip was on Google Video, but was removed within hours of the story breaking.
You can watch it for the time being at this link and also here. A WMV link is here (on our server) and a Quicktime here. Bit torrent versions of the file can be found here. An avi version can be found here. We are attempting to compile numerous mirrors of the video file. Skip forward to around the 14:30 minute mark. We expect the surviving links to quickly disappear, so we've also uploaded an FLV file to our own server. Click here to download. You'll need a free player that plays FLV files, a selection of which can be found here. Please use this download to create mirror copies in all formats and e mail the links to us (prisonplanet).
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As we have documented before, firefighters, police and first responders were all told to get back from the building because it was about to be brought down. It is widely acknowledged by those who were there on the scene that warnings were issued for people to evacuate the area in anticipation of the building's collapse, with some even stating that a 20 second countdown preceded the collapse of the 47-story skyscraper, again clearly suggesting that it was taken down by means of explosives as the video footage of its implosion illustrates.
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The video also severely undermines the credibility of the BBC who recently caused controversy by airing a 9/11 hit piece that sought to debunk questions that bring the official story into doubt.
Calls have already been put through to the BBC reporting the "mistake," click here to listen to an MP3. The BBC have promised to "look into it."
Moronic commenters on Digg are already trying to bury the story, yet none of them have an answer as to why the BBC reported the building's collapse before it happened. Click here to add your own comment and counter the debunkers.
ACTION: E Mail the BBC and ask them to clarify exactly why their reporter is announcing the collapse of Building 7 before it has collapsed. |
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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 3:26 am |
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The bbc are in it deep now and the video to watch streaming on line is here
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=49f_1172526096
Shes going on about it for all that time when its right behind her? Another nail in the coffin for the official story |
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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 9:56 am |
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Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:11 am |
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Here's the BBC's lame response so far.
It would be nice to be a fly on the wall in the BBC's head offices right now....
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Richard Porter
27 Feb 07, 05:12 PM
The 9/11 conspiracy theories are pretty well known by now. The BBC addressed them earlier this month with a documentary, The Conspiracy Files, shown within the UK.
Until now, I don't think we've been accused of being part of the conspiracy. But now some websites are using news footage from BBC World on September 11th 2001 to suggest we were actively participating in some sort of attempt to manipulate the audience. As a result, we're now getting lots of emails asking us to clarify our position. So here goes:
1. We're not part of a conspiracy. Nobody told us what to say or do on September 11th. We didn't get told in advance that buildings were going to fall down. We didn't receive press releases or scripts in advance of events happening.
2. In the chaos and confusion of the day, I'm quite sure we said things which turned out to be untrue or inaccurate - but at the time were based on the best information we had. We did what we always did - sourced our reports, used qualifying words like "apparently" or "it's reported" or "we're hearing" and constantly tried to check and double check the information we were receiving.
3. Our reporter Jane Standley was in New York on the day of the attacks, and like everyone who was there, has the events seared on her mind. I've spoken to her today and unsurprisingly, she doesn't remember minute-by-minute what she said or did - like everybody else that day she was trying to make sense of what she was seeing; what she was being told; and what was being told to her by colleagues in London who were monitoring feeds and wires services.
4. We no longer have the original tapes of our 9/11 coverage (for reasons of cock-up, not conspiracy). So if someone has got a recording of our output, I'd love to get hold of it. We do have the tapes for our sister channel News 24, but they don't help clear up the issue one way or another.
5. If we reported the building had collapsed before it had done so, it would have been an error - no more than that. As one of the comments on You Tube says today "so the guy in the studio didn't quite know what was going on? Woah, that totally proves conspiracy... "
Richard Porter is head of news, BBC World |
I thought they would pull out something better then that.
And this comes straight after the BBC Hit Piece which with all the backlashed has caused more harm then good.
Biased
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Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 2:10 pm |
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BBC Responds to Building 7 Controversy; Claim 9/11 Tapes Lost
Pathetic five paragraph blog rebuttal does not answer questions as to source of report that Salomon Building was coming down, BBC claims tapes lost due to "cock-up" not conspiracy
Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet
Tuesday, February 27, 2007
Click here to Digg this article
The BBC has been forced to respond to footage showing their correspondent reporting the collapse of WTC 7 before it fell on 9/11, claiming tapes from the day are somehow missing, and refusing to identify the source for their bizarre act of "clairvoyance" in accurately pre-empting the fall of Building 7.
Here is the BBC's response to the questions about the footage that was unearthed yesterday, with my comments after each statement.
1. We're not part of a conspiracy. Nobody told us what to say or do on September 11th. We didn't get told in advance that buildings were going to fall down. We didn't receive press releases or scripts in advance of events happening.
"We didn't get told in advance that buildings were going to fall down." If this is true, then how on earth did the BBC report the collapse of Building 7 before it happened? Psychic clairvoyance? Of course they were told that WTC 7 was coming down, just like the firefighters, police, first responders and CNN were told it was coming down. They had to have had a source for making such a claim. The BBC is acting like the naughty little boy who got caught with his hand in the cookie jar. No one here is claiming the BBC are "part of the conspiracy," but their hideous penchant to just repeat what authorities tell them without even a cursory investigation (and with the Building they are telling us has collapsed mockingly filling the background shot of the report), is a damning indictment of their yellow journalism when it comes to 9/11.
2. In the chaos and confusion of the day, I'm quite sure we said things which turned out to be untrue or inaccurate - but at the time were based on the best information we had. We did what we always did - sourced our reports, used qualifying words like "apparently" or "it's reported" or "we're hearing" and constantly tried to check and double check the information we were receiving.
How do "chaos and confusion" explain how the BBC reported on the collapse of a building, a collapse that happened "unexpectedly" according to their Conspiracy Files hit piece documentary, before it happened? In one breath the BBC is claiming they were not told of the impending collapse of the Building and in the next they are telling us that all their information is sourced. Which is it to be? Did the BBC have a source telling them the building was about to collapse or not? If not, how on earth could they pre-empt its fall? Do BBC reporters have access to a time machine? What was the source of this information?
3. Our reporter Jane Standley was in New York on the day of the attacks, and like everyone who was there, has the events seared on her mind. I've spoken to her today and unsurprisingly, she doesn't remember minute-by-minute what she said or did - like everybody else that day she was trying to make sense of what she was seeing; what she was being told; and what was being told to her by colleagues in London who were monitoring feeds and wires services.
Trying to make sense of what she was being told? She obviously didn't make much sense of the fact that the Building she was reporting had collapsed was prominently standing behind her! Unfotunately, for a news organization that prides itself on accuracy and credibility, "she doesn't remember" just doesn't cut it as an excuse.
BBC included a screenshot of yesterday's Prison Planet article in their brief response.
4. We no longer have the original tapes of our 9/11 coverage (for reasons of cock-up, not conspiracy). So if someone has got a recording of our output, I'd love to get hold of it. We do have the tapes for our sister channel News 24, but they don't help clear up the issue one way or another.
We are asked to believe that the world's premiere news organization has somehow lost all its tapes of perhaps the biggest news event of the past 60 years. This is a copout. Whether they have lost the tapes or not, the BBC simply doesn't want to verify one hundred per cent their monumental foul-up, because they know it would only increase the exposure of this issue and lead to further questions. What is there to clear up? The reporter is standing in front of the building while saying it has already collapsed! This is a blatant effort to try and placate people making complaints while refusing to admit a monumental faux pas that further undermines the BBC's credibility in the aftermath of the Conspiracy Files debacle.
5. If we reported the building had collapsed before it had done so, it would have been an error - no more than that. As one of the comments on You Tube says today "so the guy in the studio didn't quite know what was going on? Woah, that totally proves conspiracy... "
So now the BBC are so devoid of answers, they have to enlist the help of some moronic comment on a You Tube blog? Instead of issuing official statements and seeking the advice of legal professionals they produce a cobbled together five paragraph blog and include the testimony of some moron on a You Tube comment board. Pathetic! Answer the question BBC - what was your source for reporting on multiple occasions that Building 7 had collapsed before it had collapsed, and identify the source that enabled the anchorman to comment that the building had collapsed due to it being weakened, an explanation still unanswered by NIST five and a half years later.
If you had reported the collapse of the twin towers before it happened would that have been just an error too? This "error" translated as $800 million plus in insurance bounty for Larry Silverstein - I'm sure Industrial Risk Insurers would be interested to know the source of your "error." In addition, two seperate sources reported that Secret Service Agent Craig Miller died as a result of the collapse of Building 7. Do you think he would have been interested in the "error" that led to your correspondent reporting the building's downfall in advance?
Source
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/february2007/270207bbcresponds.htm |
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Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 3:27 pm |
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More on this story....
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From PUMPITOUT.com:
"Yesterday I tried getting a hold of Jane Standly and the guy said she was gone for the day. I forgot about the 5 hrs time difference. He told me to call her today and and shed be there. He gave me her direct number: 011 - 44 - (0)208 - 576 - 4440
Started calling at 7:30am, when someone finally answered her phone this is what they had to say !
click link to listen or right click and save as to download !"
Jane's Office:
www.pumpitout.com/audio/janes_office.mp3
Enjoy!
Al K Myst |
Depending on your browser you may need to right click the link to listen or right click and open in new tab for some Firefox browsers. |
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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 7:45 pm |
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So The BBC have conveniently lost the tapes just weeks after releasing the footage on the net?
This is the official BBC World policy on archiving material.
Click here for BBC Source and further Info
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BBC - Policy Area / Policy Statement
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Components to be Retained
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The following components to be retained:-
· Two broadcast standard copies of all transmitted/published TV, Radio and BBCi output – one to be stored on a separate site as a master
· One browse-quality version for research purposes, to protect the broadcast material
· All supporting metadata to enable research and re-use
· A selection of original (i.e. unedited) material for re-use/re-versioning purposes
· Hardware/software/equipment to enable replay/transfer of the media |
They just keep digging a deeper whole don't they? |
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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 8:27 pm |
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Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 4:33 pm |
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Live British news coverage on September 11 appears to suggest WTC officials already understood the dynamics of the first tower's collapse and could predict, with some degree of certainty, the imminent collapse of the second tower. How? (4mins 25s)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kL6N66vPCAs
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